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why does archer want to kill shirou

why does archer want to kill shirou

Shirou and Rin form a truce and begin searching for possible candidates for Rider's Master. With Archer finally making his move against Shirou, there is no time to rest. Archer imposes the black and white world-view so much that he completely forgets the whole reason why he does that until that actually becomes his automatic world-view. It's not a battle of physical might or results, as they both know that Archer is better, but which of the two viewpoints are valid. That's way more fuckin easy." Shirou and Astolfo arrived at the Einzbern mansion. We want to be on the offensive when the time comes, with all of our preparations." She attacks Rin and Shirou by surprise and Shirou gets injured after protecting Saber. He even looks like a superhero. Saber dodged it. The person revealed to be Emiya/Archer. Her life will not be guaranteed unless we go to him within a day." In my story, however, Shirou is better prepared and more adept at his skills, hence it was more a fight of ideals then actually see who came out as the victor in the end. ---Malintex_Terek 20:52, 6 April 2006 (UTC) It was a time of chaos and war. Archer is Heroic Spirit Emiya. The arrow is still in flight and Hrunting can be controlled, so Archer was trying to make the same 5th arrow turn back and kill Shirou. on MyAnimeList, and join in the discussion on the largest online anime and manga database in the world! Fate/stay night is a Japanese adult visual novel developed by Type-Moon and originally released for Windows on January 30, 2004. Why does the Archer card and in turn Shirou's Archer install look like Avenger from Hollow Ataraxia? Essentially Archer could very well turn Shirou into a less experienced version of himself. She no longer wants to be king. It will take the 6th arrow to kill Shirou and when that happen we get death end. Archer wanted to kill Shirou's spirit, not Shirou. Also, Gil did get pretty serious. Is it because he hates Shirou so much? Tokiomi asked Emiya/Archer why he’s here. It is at this moment that Shirou starts to get even more irritated by Archer, who has looked down on his ideals. Shirou and Archer do not want to kill people.Their ideal is "save everyone" but Archer is super effective at killing, the exact opposite of what they both want. The analogy I was told was that of a mirror; Archer can't stand his own reflection, so he smashes it. He has abducted my Master, Rin, and requested a one-on-one fight with Shirou if we want her back. … Duh. Archer isn’t cold to Rin if you watch the anime carefully, he just has ‘Kill Emiya Shirou’ as his first priority. "Meet me in the Einzbern mansion. Gilgamesh instructs Archer to kill off Shirou; however, Archer spares him, revealing his true intentions, and both Shirou and Archer activate Unlimited Blade Works. Archer stood atop the stairs in … The only salvation is that the fight against Lancer and Caster going down leaves Archer with a limited amount of mana to work from. While Archer watches, Gilgamesh gravely wounds Shirou. (spoiler) on MyAnimeList, and join in the discussion on the largest online anime and manga database in the world! Shirou and Archer later avenge Illya's death when they fight and kill Gilgamesh. And even if EMIYA wants to kill Shirou he doesn't want to let Rin die if it's not needed and he can prevent it. His eyes and hair are greyed from Tracing objects in his lifetime. Archer relented with a shrug, before creating several blades to block off Astolfo's path to him and grabbing Rin. @godgate: Caladbolg couldn’t even kill Shirou when he was a few meters away from. Arturia. Join the online community, create your anime and manga list, read reviews, explore the forums, follow news, and so much more! "Archer's objective is to kill Shirou. As EMIYA and Lancer Cu continued fighting, they eventually stopped swinging at each other and moved back to their corners of the arena and gave themselves some space. Of course, this is all considering that Archer doesn't Kill Shirou from the get-go. On his own, EMIYA can defeat Assassin (true and false), Caster (though perhaps not both her and Sasaki at the same time), Shirou’s Saber and maybe Rider. Going off topic anyway Saber kill's Archer. Wait, I do not want to know." Join the online community, create your anime and manga list, read reviews, explore the forums, follow news, and so much more! Since Archer's backstory being heavily tied to the events of Fate/Stay Night, his backstory is heavily changed for Fate/Extra.These changes are mostly a result of Fate/Extra's universe having little magic and a different Grail system. After his betrayal, he still protected Rin for multiple times. Read the topic about Why the hate around shirou? Saber isn’t anywhere close to 100%, but it’s not like Shirou can last long against Archer without help. (Topic ID: 262415) Gilgamesh, also known as Archer, is the Archer Class Servant of Tokiomi Tohsaka in the Fourth Holy Grail War of Fate/Zero. Together they could be quite the threat to the King of Heroes if they were both to spam Unlimited Blade Works against his Gate of Babylon. The image of Avenger we saw from Hollow Ataraxia was just a modification of Shirou if he were possessed by Angra Mainyu, basically Shirou Alter! That's why he was getting pissed off. Shirou who has become disgusted with Archer, engages Archer demanding why Archer hates him so much, The two are stopped by Rin who manages to convince Archer from killing Shirou by talking it out. Archer wanting to kill Shirou is essentially a high-light of the fact that Shirou saves people for his own benefit and doesn't actually do it for others. Riverlia said: In UBW, Shirou had won because of his link with Archer as well as Avalon's protection. Ritsuka and Shielder/Mash say they know him, and Shirou, Saber/Altoria, Rin and Illyasviel are shocked to see someone looking like Shirou and having the same clothes that the Archer they know had. In Kill Bill Volume 2, it is posited that Superman’s alter-ego of Clark Kent represents his perhaps unconscious critique of humanity: as something along the lines of weak, cowardly, and pathetic. While this version of Archer is still a future version of Shirou Emiya who embraced his desire to become a hero of justice, their back-story diverges from there. "You're right. A battle of the MC's who want to be Heroes, both of which constantly destroy their bodies to save people Heaven's Feel Shirou vs U.A. Archer interrupts and saves Shirou while Saber confronts Assassin. Heaven's Feel. Tohsaka won't do such a thing." Makes sense that Archer would look like Avenger consider saber looked like Saber Alter. Archer became a Heroic Spirit to defend people, not to end the cycle of his existence; he's only aggravated by Shirou's idealism, such that, he can't take it anymore. And of course, Archer appears once again to reveal that yes, he is in fact the future version of Shirou, and that the reason he wanted to kill him is out of mercy, so that Shirou won't have to go through the same shit that Archer went through. Archer then attacks Shirou, but is stopped by Saber and Assassin. At the end of the war he later makes a contract with Kirei Kotomine which lasts for a total of ten years into the Fifth Holy Grail War of Fate/Stay Night. I will kill Rin otherwise." Beginnings Saga Deku 9-A to Low 7-B Battle (Shirou is 0.006 Tons to 1.9 Megatons, Deku is 0.18 Tons to 3.91 Megatons) Nine Lives Blade Works and … To erase himself? It’s possible, but it’s not particularly likely. Kotomine chuckled at Avenger's words. Rather than Rin forming a contract with Saber, Shirou manages to become her Master again, while Rin becomes Archer's Master again. HF Shirou did NOT take down Berserker by himself. "Fine." It began with the demise of an empire. Archer sees in Shirou the source of his mistakes and wants to kill him in this way he will never kill again and will never be a weapon again. 7 Sakura And Berserker Don't be ridiculous. To do so, he can’t let Rin help Shirou gets Saber back and remains the alliance between them. We can't avoid fighting if … But honestly, why the hell can't we just kill them? Archer knows that this is a future he does not want, so he tries to end it in a different timeline by attempting to kill Shirou, which forces Shirou to understand that his ideal of saving everyone has faults, and he needs to learn how to compromise with fate. Except UBW shirou just Does UBW while rho aias no sells HF Shirou then HF Shirou get's Death rained upon him. During Heaven's Feel, Illya does the same thing that she did in Fate: upon realizing that Kiritsugu is dead, she decides to take revenge on Shirou. Archer, in contrast to this, represents all of Emiya Shirou’s ideals incarnate. Archer no longer wants to be a hero, a Guardian. I get so pissed off that I want to punch Archer. " Shirou sees in Archer a man who has lost his values, who has lost the right path, a man who must deny at all costs because he no longer knows what is really right. An empire believed to be indestructible was only awaiting its destruction at the hands of invading barbarians. Suddenly a voice said “ Do you think that destiny is yours”. I want to fight Shirou Emiya. Shirou deflected but did not destroy it. Now, why does he want to kill Shirou? Gilgamesh, in a fit of rage, uses the … Berserker hesitated because of Illya. "Fine, whatever. To change the past? Once Shirou dies, he becomes a Counter Guardian, being summoned whenever there is trouble, and because of that he's grown extremely bitter about his fate. The girl who had just finished her rite of passage would be known by that name from that day on. Except in this case the arrow wasn't destroyed. He did not appear happy when Rin noted that should they kill Caster and free Saber, she could return to Shirou’s side. That's why I want Caster to do so as fast as possible. So, why does Archer betray Rin? (Topic ID: 1228763) It even says that Shirou would have died if not for Berserker's hesitation. As they were gathering breath, Lancer Cu said something to EMIYA. There's also the likely scenario of Illya stopping Archer from killing Shirou since she wants to do it herself/toy with him. Read the topic about What was wrong with Shirou's ideals? Rin and I can defeat Caster, but not Berserker. Or does Archer have some other scheme in mind? 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